Thinking about getting a Cadillac CTS-V? Think Again.

[Reboot]

It's a Caddy, 'nough said.

[Timmahhh]

Originally Posted by Mustard182

Find me one damn N/A motor that can do what a ls1 can. You can't. Most FI motors still can't either. And don't give me hp per cylinder shit, I am talking about max power and minimum weight. The ls1 weighs less than any motor in the m50 family. With a T-56, a F-body also gets 30 mpg on the highway. This is why I defend GM when no one else does. They can build an amazing engine. If people knew a damn thing about the engine they would wish BMW had put it in the e36/46/92 M3.

Styling wise, I am not a fan of most GM products, but style is all personal opinion. Motor quality is facts, unless it is a s62 which is under debate currently.

A horse and buggy gets better fuel milage and has better handling. The engine also has a better power to weight ratio since it has no engine (0 lbs) and 1 hp. The drivetrains for each were originally designed around the same time too.

[///Ficarra]

Originally Posted by bmwperson

s62, 5v(s62) vs 5.7(ls1) makes 394hp/369tq(s62) vs 350/320 I dont feel like looking up weights but my turbo m3 makes more power then that with the boost controler off... m50 powar

It's not groundbreaking now, but the sbc (small block chevy) has been around since 1955:

"The Chevy small-block engine has been produced in 10 different displacements ranging from 262 to 400 cid. The production engine topped out at an amazing 375 hp, but race tuners have wrung upwards of 900 hp out of the package in its time.
Ahead Of Its Time
You have to understand just how far ahead of its time this engine was when it was introduced. Thin-wall castings, stamped-steel rocker arms on spherical pivots, hydraulic lifters that metered oil to the cylinder heads by way of hollow pushrods, slipper skirt aluminum pistons, interchangeable cylinder heads with wedge-type chambers and an intake that sealed the lifter valley. Cole’s sales pitch to the Chevrolet hierarchy went along the lines of, “high-performance doesn’t have to mean high price.” To this day, all small-block Chevy V-8 engines share their basic geometry with the original 265-cid engine produced in 1955."

[Mustard182]

Originally Posted by Timmahhh

A horse and buggy gets better fuel milage and has better handling. The engine also has a better power to weight ratio since it has no engine (0 lbs) and 1 hp. The drivetrains for each were originally designed around the same time too.

I thought to get 1 hp now out of a horse you would need like 22 of them?

I guess I am wrong...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

Horsepower from a horse

R. D. Stevenson and R. J. Wasserzug published an article in Nature 364, 195-195 (15 Jul 1993) calculating the upper limit to an animal's power output. The peak power over a few seconds has been measured to be as high as 14.9 Hp. However, for longer periods an average horse produces less than one horsepower.

[Jedi-Jurist]

There have been a bunch of guys on Audi forums complaining about stuff like this - one guy wanted to lemon his new RS4. This motor is great, but this particular one is obviously f'd up.

[Jedi-Jurist]

BTW, I love the electro-mag bumper idea!