General Exclaim tires -

**bosstones** · 01-25-2008, 12:12 PM

Anyone have any experience with General Exclaim UHP tires? Looking to replace the stock Conti's on the coupe with something before spring. The Exclaim UHP seem to get pretty good reviews at a great price. The most negative reviews from Bimmer owners were still in the 7's for satisfaction with the only real complaint seeming to be a bit of a soft sidewall. However, there are plenty of other reviews that say the corning is great (including from E36 and some E46 M3's). Just thought I'd see if anyone here has any experience with them.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....el=Exclaim+UHP

Slider · 01-25-2008, 01:54 PM

A soft sidewall will give you a better ride, a harder one will give you better handling and more responsiveness at the sacrifice of a little ride comfort. I always have heard good stuff about General. It should be a good daily driving summer tire for the price. If you want something that sticks better you're going to have to pay more. What are you going to be using your car for? Just daily driving? Autocross? Weekend fun?

**bosstones** · 01-25-2008, 02:18 PM

The coupe will be a DD for spring, summer, and fall but its also my fun car. I'll get on it when I can especially nice curvy roads and on/off ramps. It may see an auto-x at some point, too. To be honest, I don't know how true the claim is for a soft sidewall as only the people that gave the tire a lower rating mentioned it. Everyone else said it was great in the corners and I wouldn't assume they'd say that if they were getting much flex. Plus, I've probably seen sidewall complaints for almost every tire I've looked at reviews on. Hence me seeing if anyone here has ever run them on their car.

My default choice are PS' as I think they're great tires but I don't think they warrant the price (nor any other tire in that range). Stepping down a bit leaves me with F1's but although I'd like to try them I still find myself apprehensive. The other choice in that $800 price range is KDW2's and I don't think they're worth the money (I've had them before).

**Jay** · 01-25-2008, 02:32 PM

Have you thought about Hankook RS2 Z212's or Falken Azenis 615's? These are both very high performance tires for reasonable prices. Tire rack does not carry them though.

Also, Toyo T1-R comes in many sizes. They are relatively high performance and comfortable.

black_box · 01-25-2008, 02:33 PM

take the user reviews on tirerack w/ a grain of salt. it really depends on their driving experience which often isn't listed.

Slider · 01-25-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by black_box

take the user reviews on tirerack w/ a grain of salt. it really depends on their driving experience which often isn't listed.

Very true, most people are upgrading from their factory tires which on a good amount of cars are crap. On the other hand I love tire rack's tire tests: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...irePageLocQty= click on Test Result charts for more info.

If you don't mind paying a little more I would go with Jay's advice, they'll be stickier and more responsive, great for autox. They do wear quicker though and the sidewalls are harder but I think it's worth for the better handling.

**Timmahhh** · 01-25-2008, 05:02 PM

My older Azenis (rt215 I think?) are great in the summer, but turn to plastic and are horrible in the winter. In the right conditions, they give a ton of grip for the money though.

ZoHeB318 · 01-25-2008, 06:27 PM

already replacing the tires?

**bosstones** · 01-25-2008, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZoHeB318

already replacing the tires?

Buying winter tires again?

Just seeing what's out there. I know there's better than the stock Conti's.

Tuna · 01-26-2008, 09:26 AM

soft sidewalls ftl

Slider · 01-26-2008, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmahhh

My older Azenis (rt215 I think?) are great in the summer, but turn to plastic and are horrible in the winter. In the right conditions, they give a ton of grip for the money though.

All summer tires are like that. Summers in the summer and winter tires in the winter ftw.

**bosstones** · 01-26-2008, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuna

soft sidewalls ftl

Quite an understatement.

tom318 · 02-28-2008, 11:18 PM

i just got them put on my 328is and like the so far.but only did 100miles at most so far. buddy of mine has had them on his vette and loves them.

Conrad · 03-15-2008, 09:15 AM

I've had them for 3 summers worth on my 19's. So far so good. Although, I'm starting to hear some slight road noise.

**bosstones** · 03-15-2008, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conrad

I've had them for 3 summers worth on my 19's. So far so good. Although, I'm starting to hear some slight road noise.

How is sidewall flex with them? That seemed to be the only negative review I saw on them. Price-wise, they're great!

01-25-2008, 12:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
bosstones Professional Crastinator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Suburbia Posts: 7,379 Car: 2004 330Ci ZHP	General Exclaim tires Anyone have any experience with General Exclaim UHP tires? Looking to replace the stock Conti's on the coupe with something before spring. The Exclaim UHP seem to get pretty good reviews at a great price. The most negative reviews from Bimmer owners were still in the 7's for satisfaction with the only real complaint seeming to be a bit of a soft sidewall. However, there are plenty of other reviews that say the corning is great (including from E36 and some E46 M3's). Just thought I'd see if anyone here has any experience with them. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....el=Exclaim+UHP __________________ Hi, I'm Jay and I work at Benihana's. (okay...not really) I buy Ken's old junk! bosstones' flickr

01-25-2008, 01:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Slider Learner's permit Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NW Chicago Posts: 510 Car: 90 Celica GT 95 Miata	A soft sidewall will give you a better ride, a harder one will give you better handling and more responsiveness at the sacrifice of a little ride comfort. I always have heard good stuff about General. It should be a good daily driving summer tire for the price. If you want something that sticks better you're going to have to pay more. What are you going to be using your car for? Just daily driving? Autocross? Weekend fun? __________________

01-25-2008, 02:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
bosstones Professional Crastinator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Suburbia Posts: 7,379 Car: 2004 330Ci ZHP	The coupe will be a DD for spring, summer, and fall but its also my fun car. I'll get on it when I can especially nice curvy roads and on/off ramps. It may see an auto-x at some point, too. To be honest, I don't know how true the claim is for a soft sidewall as only the people that gave the tire a lower rating mentioned it. Everyone else said it was great in the corners and I wouldn't assume they'd say that if they were getting much flex. Plus, I've probably seen sidewall complaints for almost every tire I've looked at reviews on. Hence me seeing if anyone here has ever run them on their car. My default choice are PS' as I think they're great tires but I don't think they warrant the price (nor any other tire in that range). Stepping down a bit leaves me with F1's but although I'd like to try them I still find myself apprehensive. The other choice in that $800 price range is KDW2's and I don't think they're worth the money (I've had them before). __________________ Hi, I'm Jay and I work at Benihana's. (okay...not really) I buy Ken's old junk! bosstones' flickr

01-25-2008, 02:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jay flux=rad Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,209 Car: 93 325i, 91 318is	Have you thought about Hankook RS2 Z212's or Falken Azenis 615's? These are both very high performance tires for reasonable prices. Tire rack does not carry them though. Also, Toyo T1-R comes in many sizes. They are relatively high performance and comfortable. __________________

01-25-2008, 05:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
Timmahhh Postage & Handling Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Hoffman Estates Posts: 14,212 Car: '89 325is, '05 9-2x Images: 13	My older Azenis (rt215 I think?) are great in the summer, but turn to plastic and are horrible in the winter. In the right conditions, they give a ton of grip for the money though. __________________ Tim

01-25-2008, 02:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
black_box deals with engineers... Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: palatine Posts: 4,646 Car: 98 M3 sedan	take the user reviews on tirerack w/ a grain of salt. it really depends on their driving experience which often isn't listed.

01-25-2008, 06:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
ZoHeB318 non-emo x-dressing brick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Palatine Posts: 15,714 Car: Current: 1999 BMW M3 - Alpine White with AA TS Past: 1998 BMW M3 - Faded Estoril w/ M-Technic int Images: 4	already replacing the tires? __________________ 1999 Alpine White/Dove - Stock RIP 1998 Estoril M3 - the one and only faded paint cone pooper

01-26-2008, 09:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
Tuna in motor oil Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 12,840 Car: M THREEEEEEEEs	soft sidewalls ftl __________________

02-28-2008, 11:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
tom318 Learner's permit Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: round lake Posts: 273 Car: 1994 318is 1997 328is	i just got them put on my 328is and like the so far.but only did 100miles at most so far. buddy of mine has had them on his vette and loves them.

03-15-2008, 09:15 AM	#14 (permalink)
Conrad Slowest E46 in Chicago Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hoffman Estates, IL. Posts: 331 Car: 2000 323ci	I've had them for 3 summers worth on my 19's. So far so good. Although, I'm starting to hear some slight road noise. __________________

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